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choose priority from all possible interpretations? 1 year, 3 months ago #11067

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The above chart is the North sector of my house for the Living Room. I know that:
1. I need to countermeasure the water star 7 with water element to reduce the star 7's ill effect
2. A book I read says to use an earth element as a countermeasure for the combination of stars 9 and 7, because 7, 8, 9 is a harmonious combination

Having these 2 ideas in mind, I have a problem to decipher which one I should go for. Both make sense, yet adding the earth element would keep the annual star 2 alive, wouldn't it. If I use a water element to reduce the effect of star 7 and of 9, the annual star 2 would destroy the chi from the water element, wouldn't it, despite of the guest energy is not too strong compared with the water star. What should I do?


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The second chart above is for TV Room sometimes exercise room as well at SE sector. I know that:
1. I need to counter measure the water star 4 by using fire
2. The book I read says to counter measure the combination between 3 and 7 by water, as well as 7 and 5.
3. SO much wood in this chart; can it be out of balance?

Having these 2 ideas in mind, the second remedy does not make sense to me. Since water element would activate the water star 4, which in untimely in this period. I don't think I want to activate star 4, despite the fact that I might have some scholastic success, in combination with the untimely star 3. What can I do for this sector?

My point here is that I don't know which remedy to go about. I know that I have to look at each individual star, as well as the combination, and all of their interactions with one another. I know that the water star can only be activate with activities and has the strongest energy/chi. The Annual stars have weak energy comparing to the water or the mountain. Then the monthly stars are even weaker.

***Do I look at the individual a WATER STAR first as the priority, see what i can activate or countermeasure it, and then consider its combination with the period/ruling star next, then with the mountain, then with the annual, and the last with the monthly. Or should I look at a combination first and see what affects me, such as the SE sector 3, 7, 4 combination for the TV Room (eldest daughter's luck afflicted with stress. Some scholastic success, but misunderstandings bring severe mental stress)? But at least I can say that I am the only woman in the house without a daughter, so should I disregard the combination effect?

Thanks
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Re:choose priority from all possible interpretations? 1 year, 3 months ago #11192

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Why do you think you need to do anything here?

Without understanding who and what this sector affects you cannot know whether anything is required at all.

Who does the North represent in the family... and why?
What can be found outside in the direction of North at this house?
If a 7 flies into the North...what element is expressed in the North? What is the effect of a 7 coming there?
What is the effect of a 9 Mountain guest on a 7 "water" host?
What is the combined effect, if any, of a 9 and 4?

If you tried to figure out what bric-a-brac to add to every room to micro-manage the stars in every room, what would be the effect?
Will that even work?

Personally, I'd be looking simply at the annual 2 visited by the monthly 1.
What precautions might I take?
Mostly I'd watch my diet and keep up my exercise.
No bric-a-brac involved

Besides, didn't we discuss priorities before?
Don't despair. The situation may not be nearly as bad as you think.
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Re:choose priority from all possible interpretations? 1 year, 3 months ago #11206

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Hi, Devadog,

Nice to see your answer here

You are a great teacher, Devadog... your questions make me think and analyze the conditions with the flying stars. That's how you analyze....to know the solutions. FANTASTIC! I had not really grasped the idea of analyzing, but looked at the numbers in a linear way. To counter-answer your questions first:

1. the North represents middle son of the family. so.... it does not matter MUCH to me?? is that what it is supposed to be??? I think that Feng Shui should be rewritten with imperfect families in mind, for the couple who don't have heirs and single people

2. small rocks (most round) as gravel surfaces and low plants outside the North of the house. Oh-oh.... too much earth that keeps annual star 2 alive. Ouch!

3. 7 represents metal element, which drains the water element which represents for the North

4. The 9 Mountain Guest amplifies the effect of 7 water Host, so water 7 here is getting more strength from the mountain star 9. Wait a second!!! but 9 of the element fire destroys the metal element of 7. Oh, no Devadog... you make me think and then too much thinking makes me confused....... which is which now??

5. combined effect of 9, 4, and 7.. fire hazard and sexual scandals and problems. So.. the middle son may be having sexual issues.. So.... again I don't have any sons; then I don't worry about sexual scandals. Is middle son also indicating MALE gender in general??? What should I see the family member representation in Bagua and directions in my condition of only single pair of married couple living in the house?

6. No, devedog, I have not tried to figure out all bric-a-brac to every room YET, mind you !!! The North and the SouthEast are so far the only two rooms I am concerned, because the rest is either too bad to figure or weird rooms..... anyway.. One room is driving me crazy already; I am taking it slow and easy....

Devadog, would you mind commenting on my answers above to counter-answer them for me, please?

OK, so personally, you'd look simply at the annual 2.. That's a fantastic idea to keep it simple. I like that!!!! However, I don't just watch my diet or do exercise when a 2 star flies to me. I am a super health conscious person. I don't think I can be more conscious on my health. Since it is a catching cold and getting sick season, I am well aware of getting myself a jacket handy, even it is warm in the morning already and wash hands right after I touch anything that's specially public surfaces. I keep my life style very healthy, yet I am still catching a cold now. Now you mentioned about outside of the North sector...... it must be the rocks getting me sick just kidding!

Really I was kidding.. I understand that flying stars are not the only drive to affect each person's fate, personal kua, ba-zi or whatever too. And of course each person' karma plays a huge role too. we cannot isolate each cause, things in the universe are interrelated and have to happen at the mature conditions with all the elements meet with time and space. Cause makes effect, and vice versa. Things are not linear but in a circle.. I understand what you have said....

Yeah, we discussed priority before, but my brain is so small comparing to the vast universe. I cannot keep it up.....

Re:choose priority from all possible interpretations? 1 year, 3 months ago #11209

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chueh wrote:
Hi, Devadog,

Nice to see your answer here

You are a great teacher, Devadog... your questions make me think and analyze the conditions with the flying stars. Well that's a flattering interpretation. Actually as I've said before, it is all too complicated to teach in this way. So I hope to at least help you re-direct your thinkingThat's how you analyze....to know the solutions. FANTASTIC! I had not really grasped the idea of analyzing, but looked at the numbers in a linear way. To counter-answer your questions first:

1. the North represents middle son of the family. so.... it does not matter MUCH to me?? is that what it is supposed to be??? I think that Feng Shui should be rewritten with imperfect families in mind, for the couple who don't have heirs and single people Oh #1 represents lots of people and things: yes the middle son or a mature male (everything is relative - if there is a senior male then the next youngest, regardless of family relationship), but also spiritual attainment, anyone who is kua 1, learning, and also certain body parts, organs, etc. of anyone in the house. There are even more possibilities. Looking at the various Stars and the timing helps us focus on which of the various possibilities is most likely. But it is very difficult to predict exactly the issue (if any), timing and person involved. Much easier to recognize it after the fact

2. small rocks (most round) as gravel surfaces and low plants outside the North of the house. Oh-oh.... too much earth that keeps annual star 2 alive. Ouch!Everyone has earth outside. But look a little further at nearby houses, other structures, hills, bodies of water. They can introduce yet another Star into the sector. They may activate a Star that is there or if they are absent they may leave the Stars there useless

3. 7 represents metal element, which drains the water element which represents for the NorthMetal drais water? Metal conducts water and is itself drained

4. The 9 Mountain Guest amplifies the effect of 7 water Host, so water 7 here is getting more strength from the mountain star 9. Wait a second!!! but 9 of the element fire destroys the metal element of 7. Oh, no Devadog... you make me think and then too much thinking makes me confused....... which is which now??

5. combined effect of 9, 4, and 7.. fire hazard and sexual scandals and problems. 9-4 is hetu metal, for one thing, so the 7 has some grounding here. So.. the middle son may be having sexual issues.. So.... again I don't have any sons; then I don't worry about sexual scandals. Is middle son also indicating MALE gender in general??? What should I see the family member representation in Bagua and directions in my condition of only single pair of married couple living in the house?

6. No, devedog, I have not tried to figure out all bric-a-brac to every room YET, mind you !!! The North and the SouthEast are so far the only two rooms I am concerned, because the rest is either too bad to figure or weird rooms..... anyway.. One room is driving me crazy already; I am taking it slow and easy....Remember that most of the rooms are not important

Devadog, would you mind commenting on my answers above to counter-answer them for me, please?

OK, so personally, you'd look simply at the annual 2.. That's a fantastic idea to keep it simple. I like that!!!! However, I don't just watch my diet or do exercise when a 2 star flies to me. I am a super health conscious person. I don't think I can be more conscious on my health. Since it is a catching cold and getting sick season, I am well aware of getting myself a jacket handy, even it is warm in the morning already and wash hands right after I touch anything that's specially public surfaces. I keep my life style very healthy, yet I am still catching a cold now. Now you mentioned about outside of the North sector...... it must be the rocks getting me sick just kidding!It is not an isolated 2, it is 2 hosting 1. That points to stomach or gynecological issues, blocked sex drive, etc. (blocking water, after all)

Really I was kidding.. I understand that flying stars are not the only drive to affect each person's fate, personal kua, ba-zi or whatever too. And of course each person' karma plays a huge role too. we cannot isolate each cause, things in the universe are interrelated and have to happen at the mature conditions with all the elements meet with time and space. Cause makes effect, and vice versa. Things are not linear but in a circle.. I understand what you have said....

Yeah, we discussed priority before, but my brain is so small comparing to the vast universe. I cannot keep it up.....


The reason, IMO, not to go crazy with this is precisely because it is so deep that most of us only know the surface. It's like trying to diagnose a medical problem using the internet. You'll conclude it's a heart attack when in fact it is merely a bit of congestion Assume that you do not understand and therefore have no cause for worry (I realize the temptation to reach the opposite conclusion)
Don't despair. The situation may not be nearly as bad as you think.

Re:choose priority from all possible interpretations? 1 year, 3 months ago #11211

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Devadog,

Thank you....I learned so much by your redirecting me. Your approach of looking at stars is very refreshing. I will apply that to the other rooms However, Why do most practitioners teach people to activate or deactivate the good or bad stars to begin with, as if it is the most important and the first step to do? I forgot to explain in my last response; that's why i wanted to weaken the water star 7 in the north sector.

Yes, the hetu combination; I never get it... I am not saying that I can remember any basic concepts of flying star, but this hetu thing confuses me. No wonder I couldn't remember to look at it for 9-4. There is no explanation in the books I read about certain number combination representing the elements. Why would 9-4 fire and wood transform to metal, for instance??? And why there is no combination for the earth. We've got the transformation of Water, Fire, Wood, and Metal for the numbered sequence... Also... I remember now about hetu. I was reading one book, and it says that hetu is more effective if the stars are mountain and water. Is it right?

I know that I am asking a question that's probably too broad and hard to narrow it down: How much should one do to balance the elements and keep harmony in a sector regarding the elements. I understand that the bigger proportion it is of an element representation, the more strength it has. However, how do I determine it??? Do you really compare by their sizes and volumes?????
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Re:choose priority from all possible interpretations? 1 year, 3 months ago #11213

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chueh wrote:


There is no explanation in the books I read about certain number combination representing the elements. Why would 9-4 fire and wood transform to metal, for instance???


You are wrong. There are books did explained about hetu and loshu. These are the very beginning of feng shui even before the flying star was invented. It always start with FuXi, the horse and the turtle. Happy learning~

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yayahoo wrote:
chueh wrote:


There is no explanation in the books I read about certain number combination representing the elements. Why would 9-4 fire and wood transform to metal, for instance???


You are wrong. There are books did explained about hetu and loshu. These are the very beginning of feng shui even before the flying star was invented. It always start with FuXi, the horse and the turtle. Happy learning~


Yes exactly!

There are too many books and many are written by people who only understand a little; many are written for the ever growing do-it-yourself market because there is profit to be made. But feng shui is not like replacing your kitchen leaky faucet.
Don't despair. The situation may not be nearly as bad as you think.

Re:choose priority from all possible interpretations? 1 year, 3 months ago #11228

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chueh

To tell you the truth, your questions are overwhelming. You have a voracious desire to learn and understand this, but it cannot be done piecemeal and fast.
So why not consider taking a proper course of study?
There are even Masters who have on-line and home study courses.
Then you can go systematically, learning and building on the learning.

I think you'd enjoy it and get better results
Don't despair. The situation may not be nearly as bad as you think.
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Re:choose priority from all possible interpretations? 1 year, 3 months ago #11233

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Good suggestion, devadog! I was thinking about it too. I have not done so, simply because I am afraid to be tied up with any bias ideas, which are not true to Feng Shui. A lot of times, people add their own interpretations with various degrees of understanding even for a simple and straight forward FACT. Have you played the game in elementary school to ask the person sitting at the first row to read a word or phrase and pass it on to the next person, and on and on. Usually the very last person got the word wrong or slightly different... As a teacher myself, I tell students one thing, and later they quote me wrong.. I found myself I have had different interpretations on the same books (nothing to do with feng shui) I read 5 years ago and now. A lot of times, I even find that people especially with good skills or knowledge on something, they tend to narrow down their minds more than beginners.

Each feng shui and flying star book I have read is pretty much consistent on certain aspects, while I also found that each author is bias on something and focuses on it a lot (I guess they are trying to make their point). Of course, I get confused by one book to another, yet I think as I keep learning and read, I will eventually have a better understanding and have my own discretion, and then open a class on Feng shui Too funny!!!!! no more students other than what I am teaching now; i have had enough headaches....

By the way, any master I take a feng shui course from would be aggravated by me. Guess what, I would follow the master home and ask him/her questions even while he/she is in bed.... Hahahhaha.... Thank you for your honesty, devadog... yes, I admit I have voracious desire to learn and very much admit that I am aggressive often... I love honesty.... no need to be diplomatic with me
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