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Please Help with my friend's ba zi 1 year, 1 month ago #14852

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Hi guys (Jae you there?),

i want to help a friend asking about his chart,

March 29th 1978, 21.00 birht time

Ding Geng Yi Wu
Hai Yin Mao Wu

as far as i can read his Ba zi, i think this person is lucky and wealthy, (he is born in a really rich family too)

but why is his chart really unlucky in Zi Wei Dou Shu?

thanks in advance

Re: Please Help with my friend's ba zi 1 year ago #14959

hi,

lets look at 4p itself,

can we look at this perspective:

geng tied by yi cannot produce metal unless meet metal luck.
the wealth in this chart is strong.
the current big luck gives a lot of wood and fires,
metal only help is from earth at year, that's why family can support him. (parents are civil servant?)
but he himself is very weak, cannot manage wealth, faced with many stress, at work credit and girlfriend being snatched by others..
but he is lucky that he is still alive.
his family rich does not mean he rich.

???
In a r/s, the one that is not being loved, is the third party.
Love is like a can of coke, the rings is firmly attached to the can, but in the heart of can, it contains only the coke.
Finding the One is a myth, Being the One is the TRUTH.
Target to help 1000 couples since 2000. 95% to go.... ZZZZzzzzz

Re: Please Help with my friend's ba zi 1 year ago #14969

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Thanks for the reply

Wow, so what can he do to fix that?

Incidentally he will start a metal element business. Its good for him, right?


Also, being a

Ding ren Bing Bing


wei yin shen yin


myself (26 aug 1986, 14:01, male)


Will we be compatible in business or will we destroy each other, since I know my chart (althoughbetter) is also unstable
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Re: Please Help with my friend's ba zi 1 year ago #14975

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Hello Steve,

Sorry for late response. Been rather busy lately.

Nevertheless, here is my take, from my very limited knowledge.

As for BaZi, it is actually very straightforward, as he is born in a great door of support, where the flow of qi is smooth.
That would explain his door of wealth.

However, as he steps out of his gates, and into his immediate house doors, he is no longer as well supported as he ought to be.

This is also valid from his luck pillar's point of view where his early years are very supportive.

Is his current life hitting abit of stalemate? The year of 2012 should be good for him in somewhat neutral ways however (like a silver lining in poor situations).

As he proceeds on to his later life, he would encounter more and more networking support, which serves to cement success through potential friendships, partnerships and more.

You CAN work with him, but remember what I said about your chart? Not too many partnerships aye.

firehorselord:

IMHO, GENG YI combination need not require metal luck to produce metal, it just need to avoid fire luck in general.
In any case, his chart will not allow successful transformation of GENG YI.

J
Go with the flow..
Last Edit: 1 year ago by Jae.

Re: Please Help with my friend's ba zi 1 year ago #14980

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Hi J

Thanks for the reply.

Yeah I agree, his early life is prosperous but as he enters last decade (his 22-32 age), he is in a lllot of trouble, got into a few life threatening accident, fraud etc but he's getting bac on his feet after 32

He just asked, how about marriage, what kind of ba zi should he look into when he searches for spouse? (Spouse's day master, shio, etc)

Thanks again ,

Re: Please Help with my friend's ba zi 1 year ago #14984

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Hi Steve,

Most welcome.

As for spouse, honestly we shouldn't judge a person based on bazi for potential relationships, but instead, to allow the feelings and human rationale to kick in? Could you convey this to your friend for me?

Nevertheless, he could look for someone without certain clashes, or someone with a simple chart. When i mean simple, it means a person with not too much of complications and elemental gods in the chart.

J
Go with the flow..

Re: Please Help with my friend's ba zi 1 year ago #14985

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Ahaha, yeah I agree, we should follow our hearts in love.

Anyway, while you're here, can I ask a bit about useful god/yong shen? Been reading around and I don't really understand how to look for it.


For example, in this chart and my chart, what is the yong shen? And how's the condition?

Thx again

Re: Please Help with my friend's ba zi 1 year ago #14986

hi J.

roger that. thank you.


btw, what is IMHO? uncle old le.. duno whats these new abbrv!! lol...
In a r/s, the one that is not being loved, is the third party.
Love is like a can of coke, the rings is firmly attached to the can, but in the heart of can, it contains only the coke.
Finding the One is a myth, Being the One is the TRUTH.
Target to help 1000 couples since 2000. 95% to go.... ZZZZzzzzz

Re: Please Help with my friend's ba zi 1 year ago #14987

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Hi Steve,

I will be most glad to answer you on that shortly (when i get back home tonight!), okay?

Hehe

J
Go with the flow..

Re: Please Help with my friend's ba zi 1 year ago #14989

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firehorselord wrote:
hi J.

roger that. thank you.


btw, what is IMHO? uncle old le.. duno whats these new abbrv!! lol...


Hello Firehorselord,

Uncle old meh? How old?

IMHO means "In My Honest Opinion".

J
Go with the flow..

Re: Please Help with my friend's ba zi 1 year ago #14990

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Okayy

Re: Please Help with my friend's ba zi 1 year ago #14992

Jae wrote:
firehorselord wrote:
hi J.

roger that. thank you.


btw, what is IMHO? uncle old le.. duno whats these new abbrv!! lol...


Hello Firehorselord,

Uncle old meh? How old?

IMHO means "In My Honest Opinion".

J


i thought it was some abbrv scolding me....u know.. along the line... hahhhahahahhahaha
In a r/s, the one that is not being loved, is the third party.
Love is like a can of coke, the rings is firmly attached to the can, but in the heart of can, it contains only the coke.
Finding the One is a myth, Being the One is the TRUTH.
Target to help 1000 couples since 2000. 95% to go.... ZZZZzzzzz

Re: Please Help with my friend's ba zi 1 year ago #14994

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Stevemoggi wrote:
Ahaha, yeah I agree, we should follow our hearts in love.

Anyway, while you're here, can I ask a bit about useful god/yong shen? Been reading around and I don't really understand how to look for it.


For example, in this chart and my chart, what is the yong shen? And how's the condition?

Thx again


Hello Steve,

Lets use his chart as an example, and you shall have your homework on your chart. Tell me your analysis of your own chart after that, deal?

GENG being born in MAO month of spring, automatically brings his chart strength down by 1 major notch.
Now does GENG YI combine? Nope.

Is there anything supporting him? Yes.

They are: WU and JI (albeit hidden) in his chart.

What would support WU? Fire. Is fire favorable to him? Hell no!

BUT, the silver lining would be, it frees up what could potentially cause a hole in his savings and expenditure, which is wood.
It would also support the formation of earth. and there is a JI earth supporting WU in the hidden roots.

His Yong shen as follows in chronological sequence in his chart:

1) WU

2) Fire (Tricky and subject to debate).

Best elements inclusive of Luck?

1) Earth

2) Metal

Tadah!

J
Go with the flow..

Re: Please Help with my friend's ba zi 1 year ago #14995

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firehorselord wrote:
Jae wrote:
firehorselord wrote:
hi J.

roger that. thank you.


btw, what is IMHO? uncle old le.. duno whats these new abbrv!! lol...


Hello Firehorselord,

Uncle old meh? How old?

IMHO means "In My Honest Opinion".

J


i thought it was some abbrv scolding me....u know.. along the line... hahhhahahahhahaha


Uncle FireLord,

I'm not so bad leh!

J
Go with the flow..

Re: Please Help with my friend's ba zi 1 year ago #14996

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Jae wrote:
Stevemoggi wrote:
Ahaha, yeah I agree, we should follow our hearts in love.

Anyway, while you're here, can I ask a bit about useful god/yong shen? Been reading around and I don't really understand how to look for it.


For example, in this chart and my chart, what is the yong shen? And how's the condition?

Thx again


Hello Steve,

Lets use his chart as an example, and you shall have your homework on your chart. Tell me your analysis of your own chart after that, deal?

GENG being born in MAO month of spring, automatically brings his chart strength down by 1 major notch.
Now does GENG YI combine? Nope.

Is there anything supporting him? Yes.

They are: WU and JI (albeit hidden) in his chart.

What would support WU? Fire. Is fire favorable to him? Hell no!

BUT, the silver lining would be, it frees up what could potentially cause a hole in his savings and expenditure, which is wood.
It would also support the formation of earth. and there is a JI earth supporting WU in the hidden roots.

His Yong shen as follows in chronological sequence in his chart:

1) WU

2) Fire (Tricky and subject to debate).

Best elements inclusive of Luck?

1) Earth

2) Metal

Tadah!

J


OK i'll try

I'm a Ren being born in SHEN of autumn, meaning that the REN got some resource, and it's quite strong at the beginning. There's also a GENG in hidden stems in month (another resource) and REN in the hidden stems (parallel)

However being surrounded by 2 BING (heavenly stems from month and hour), the GENG in SHEN becomes weak. so it also weakens my Day Master.

JI in my hour pillars support Geng, (although only a little).

so my yong shen is JI (and Wu?)

and the elements most useful to me is :

1. Water (to strengthen my day master, and to protect GENG from fire)

2. Metal (resource)

2. Earth (to support my resource)

so in my current LP (ji hai), i'm getting earth and water so i should be quite lucky

and in my next LP (geng zi) i'm getting my resource and my parallel element to make use of fire in my chart

am i right?
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