Hi Bernard,
You are too humble.I am also learning but have a long,long way to go before I can catch up with you.
My bazi ;
Boyfriend's :
Hope you understand why I am posting in bazi form .Assure you the sets of bazi are 100% correct.

Waiting for your expert opinion.

Thanks

Har

Hi har,

In checking for compatibility I will start off with Earthly Branch Pillar to Pillar of both party for comparison.

Year Pillar Wu vs Wu – same element – both side parent have same view on the couple.

Month Pillar Si vs You – half harmony combo – couple in tune with each other, good communication and can reach consensus.

Day Pillar You vs Zi – destructive clash – slight different in idea related to sexual relationship.

Hour Pillar Shen vs You – Free – same opinion in children education.

Male Day against Female Month – You vs You – same element – will take care of each other.

Female Day against Male Month – Zi vs Si – Free – No problem but if base on 5 element may have small argument issue.

Male favorable element is Wood and Fire and Female favorable element is Fire and Earth.- Both after only one same element so minor differences in opinion.

Male Day Master and Female Day Master – Ren Water and Ding Fire combination to form Wood – Very loving and good relationship couple and if you can give birth to a child that is Wood Day Master, this child will be a heaven kid which will bring unlimited wealth and prosperity to the parent. Wow…this is fantastic.

Looking at the above compatibility test result I think both are above 80% comparable. Congratulation!!!!

This is my way of checking and hope it will not disappoint you. Good luck and wish you a blissful marriage.


Bernard

Thanks for such good news.However we are not at that 'marriage" stage yet.
Allow me to voice my opinion.From what I read,Ren and Ding transform to Fire in Si month.Ren and Ding combine but does not transform in You month.I don't know whether our daymasters really transform or not and what are the implications in our relationship if it doesn't.
Maybe you can help me read his bazi individually.A practitoner once told me he'll have another relationship later in his life.Do you see that?
Thanks agasin ,Bernard

Hi har,

No problem and please raise your opinions, in this way we can learn and share to further improve ourselves.

This is very interesting and may I know which book stated that Ren and Ding combine and transform to Fire in Si month? Anyway this is not important and what we are interested is to check whether there is a relationship between element to element in each respective palace.

In both of your chart your DM is Ren and his is Ding, we just want to know is there a combination or clashes in this two elements. In your case it is a combination which we can decode both should be a loving couple. Next is that we want to know what is the resultant element in this combination base on the basic theory irrespective of whether the season approved it and we know the resultant element is Wood. So if you happen to have any children that are Wood Day Master, this child will be able to “wang” or bring unlimited wealth and prosperity luck to the family. We are not interested or rather we cannot use both chart’s season to determine whether the transformation will be successful.

As for your boyfriend his Ding Fire was born in season and supported by the Yi Wood in the month pillar. This will render the DM Strong but in the Earthly Branch there is a Shen, You and Xu to form a seasonal combination of Metal but transformation is not approved by HS. Si Fire is under the threat of the strong Metal fame and may have to join You to form a half Metal. Now the Earthly Branch turns into a solid Metal environment. This will rendered the DM Ding Fire from Strong to Weak.

Just looking at the surface of the chart I will agree with the practitioner’s view that he will have a second marriage but if we go deeper into it, it may not necessary so. Due to the seasonal combination in his chart I should say that his spouse spend more time with her friends rather than at home. Luckily the transformation is not approved if not there may be some problem in his marriage. But on the other hand even if it can be transformed the resultant element remains the same element so I don’t think it will be an issue.

Bernard

I got it from www.64gua.com/ebook..can't remember the full address.Ditiensui had commented Ren Ding which doesn't transform to wood causes uncertainties in relationship.Too bad he has left the forum.
I think practitioner was also concerned with the duplicated spouse palace(luck pillar) when the Si You Chou combination takes full effect.It is stated they transform to 'fine tools" in Si month(the book above),so I was thinking they transform to Xin( another girlfriend).Ha,ha..that's my own opinion.
I know my bazi is far from good in terms of relationship.That's why I am studying his to see if it's just as bad.

Hi har,

For the Earthly Branch combination the approval must come from the Heavenly Stem and not the season. Wow.. I think you need to be careful with the book you have read. My mentor told me before to beware of books published in Taiwan as there are a lot of cut and paste and some of the author don't even have bazi knowledge.


Bernard

Ok,ok let's say the book is wrong in it's combination/transformation part but doesn't the duplicated spouse palace bring problem?The IW in the spouse palace and multiple IW/DW -what do they signify?
Too bad,I don't have a mentor.I only learn from books and forums..

Hi har,

Slowly don't get agitated, I also face the same problem before by only reading books. Bazi is very complex and you really need a mentor to guide you because there are too many things and a book cannot explain everything clearly to you.

Ok back to your question, if that is the case then every 12 years you will see a same element appear or at any stage when a combination resultant element appear, are you going to say this person will be having another wife or women. No you cannot read in such a way, In his chart he has 2 Direct and Indirect Wealth Star, that does not mean he will have 2 wives and 2 lovers. If this is the case then when the external Wealth element flies in you will have to keep adding on again.

One good example for divorce case is a Gui DM with Yin and Si in the Earthly Branch. When annual luck Shen fly in it will form an Ungrateful Punishment. But at the same time Shen will clash with Yin and combine with Si. Hidden inside both Yin and Si is a Bing which is the spouse element of this Gui DM. So when Shen clash Yin the spouse element will be affected and subsequently combine with Si which mean the spouse is being removed from the chart. So the final outcome in term of people could be a divorce or something bad happen to the spouse.

Bernard

I don't mean every 12 years he'll have a divorce.If you have read Jerry King's books,one of the "criteria" for marriage problem is if the spouse pillar is duplicated in the original bazi or in the luck pillars.With the ongoing combination and unfavourable luck pillars,I thought that's what the practitioner meant.Looks like you think otherwise..so according to your analysis there's no problem with his marriage(bazi-wise)?He doesn't have such an ideal past,that's why I am wondering what the future holds for him
That said,I am just leaning bazi for fun as I find it very accurate and fascinating..not learning it to be a professional.

Dear har,

I am so sorry and I think I misunderstood you. Now I get it and what you are trying to say is about the duplicate pillar or fu yin. To consider a duplicate pillar the Heavenly Stem and Earthly Branches must be the same but in your boyfriend case when he reaches the next decade only the Earthly Branches is the same but the Heavenly Stem is different. So in this case it does not duplicate the Day Pillar. You boyfriend Day Pillar is Ding You so to duplicate it must also be Ding You in which both are similar.

I still maintain my earlier stand about his marriage in which there will be small issue but can be resolved. The main issue shows that his spouse may spend insufficient time at home and with him and what both can do is to use their Man Luck to settle the issue.

Bernard

Hi Bernard,
Haha.you are STILL misunderstanding me.I meant duplicate Spouse Palace only not Fu Yin.I know Fu Yin.He's experiencing Fu Yin in his Career Pillar this luck cycle and his career is really going nowhere.
I only meant Spouse Palace (You) duplicated elsewhere.Have you tried reading Jerry King's books? I think it's quite good for people like me who don't know much Chinese.
Ok,Ok..I accept your analysis of his relationship luck.Can you comment on my present relationship luck as well? I am open to any comments.If there's no fengshui help,what is the chances of me conceiving in the future?
Sorry for so many questions.Thanks

Har

Hi har

Omg..wrong number and salah again..hahaha…anyway you know very well what is installed in your boyfriend luck cycle and there is no need for me to go further. I can only say that he needs to live simple.

As for your relationship luck you also know that you shall not marry in yours this present cycle due to the Zi Wu clash. There is also a destructive clash in your spouse palace which may easily cause misunderstanding with your spouse. But if you will to marry after 36 then the effect can be minimized.

End of the day even a couple is compatible it still cannot escape the internal and external luck influence.

In term of feng shui to help you conceive I have already told you that you have to make sure your North2 sector of your house and bedroom is free from heavy load and if possible your house shall not have a missing North sector.

Nice talking to you and good luck to both of you.


Bernard

Hi Bernard,
One last question..do you think relationships (eg bf/gf type)can last during this Zi-Wu Clash period?Actually we are finding that we have less in common nowadays although we have been together for 11/2 years.Not easy to communicate...just wondering whether it's the bazi taking effect....

Har

Hi har,

Your spouse palace will only trigger once you marry. The present clash of Zi and Wu is more toward your personal feeling. This year Chen clashes the Xu in the Year Pillar and inside Xu contains both party relationship star. Likely you will find that both your relationship will be on the dry side.

Also sitting beside your DM are 2 relationship stars which make you 三心兩意 3 Hearts 2 minds (literally translate from Chinese).


Bernard

" 三心兩意 " -I know how to read this simple Chinese.Ya, that's how one practitioner friend told me..he said my feelings unstable,always looking for a better one.
Thanks a lot, Bernard for imparting your wisdom.I'll look for you again when I bump into problems.

Har

Dear har,

Don't mention it and I wish you all the best.

Btw may I know did your friend Jefferey's wife given birth to a baby boy or girl?


Bernard

Hi Bernard,
She gave birth to a 3.2 kg baby boy somewhere in late April.Hmm,I am surpirsed she managed to get pregnant after so many years.I guess that's something too "deep" for a beginner like me to understand.

Har

HI har,

Wow..that's great and please send my congratulation to them.



Bernard

HI Bernard,

I would like to get some help here. Urm, this is dob 24 april 1988 and 9.30am. i would like to know what type of characteristics my future husband adhere? what type of guy will suit me? kindly let me know. thank you.

Vege88

Hi vege88

I will suggest that you open a new thread rather than intruding into this thread.


Bernard